ptrowski
Got Helix?
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join:2005-03-14
Putnam, CT
clubs: | Very nice...
I am glad to see that 50 Mbps can reach the whole FIOS base. Now if I can only get them to cross the RI/CT border to come to my town! |
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battleop
join:2005-09-28
00000 | What good is 200Mbps?
When the far end only gives you 10Mbps? I've got as much as 300Mbps in a remote datacenter and it's rare that I see more than 10Mbps on many sites. Yesterday I downloaded some stuff from Adobe and I could not get over 10Mbps from them. |
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tschmidt
Premium,MVM
join:2000-11-12
Milford, NH
 ·Hollis Hosting
 ·Verizon Online DSL
·Fairpoint Communic..
| As First-Mile performance increases that will become more common. If you have multiple sessions open to different servers you will still benefit.
Personally that is a problem I'd like to have - performance determined by remote server not my First-Mile connection.
It is nice to see Verizon being so aggressive with FIOS. Living in NH hopefully FairPoint will follow suit now that they have taken over.
/tom |
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Shamayim
I already have a Messiah.
Premium
join:2002-09-23 | It will be fun trying to tweak up to the max  |
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bbskeptic
join:2005-09-12
Burlington, VT | reply to battleop
Exactly!!!! |
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD | Let's hope....
....they can fix their billing problems or they will suffer the same fate as cable with poor customer service.
I wonder where all this data is going to eventually end up? How much data are we really going to need to push and for what? |
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watts3000
join:2002-01-21
Birmingham, AL | Wow to bad I will never see this due to the fact that I live in Alabama |
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CUBS_FAN
Next Year Again..
join:2005-04-28
Chicago, IL
 ·magicjack.com
·Vonage
 ·Comcast
1 edit | Why?
With all the talk of "limiting bandwidth hogs" and setting a bandwith cap it'll be so much easier to exceed the limits set in place. If FIOS has no bandwidth limits then I don't see any reason for Comcast and others to try and compete.
"I want you to stop driving so fast therfore I'll give you this Dodge Viper to drive around in" |
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tmc8080
join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY
| residential market
Talk of these higher speeds means nothing if Verizon can't bring faster speeds at affordable prices. Unless Verizon is able to break new price barriers such as 30/30 or 50/50 for $65 per month 200mbits will go nowhere fast. Right now, they're hard pressed to offer 20/20 for $65 per month. 200mbit would be Umm... $300, $400?
A 200mbit service would have to be under $250 to make sense to a residential customer in today's dollars. Right now they should be focused on offering Symmetrical Speeds to set themselves apart from everything else in their footprint. The main worry for Verizon is when customers REALLY start using that upload... the potential risk is not earning a profit due to isp data transfer cost at the backbone level.
Right now, IMO it's more talk than action because they are still in competitive pole position even though cable companies are beginning to test "BOOST" products in the market, they nowhere near able to compete with FTTP QOS in terms average bits per second especially at peak use hours. Few cable companies break 50mbits today.. and won't until docsis 3.0 rolls around (actual service offerings, new modems, the whole 9 yards).. Verizon knows this and so do cable companies. That's why it's more important to watch what these companies DO instead of what they SAY. |
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kleinml
join:2008-04-18
Levittown, PA
 ·Verizon FiOS
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Re: Let's hope....
said by moonpuppy  :I wonder where all this data is going to eventually end up? How much data are we really going to need to push and for what? We already see IP based TV like websites popping up. I can see these models taking off once the bandwidth is there to make watching Real Time video transmissions less like watching 1960's TV. Plus all the HD Porn ...  |
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benc
Premium
join:2007-06-17
Glen Carbon, IL
·Charter Pipeline
·Future Nine Corpor..
| I wish Verizon would come to St. Louis
If they deployed FIOS here, I'd sign up in a heartbeat. Personally I'd want the "business" service, for servers and such. But, it's just got to be a better deal than Charter Business (they're expensive).
I'm curious, for about $100/mo.(give or take $10) what's the best "business" FIOS they offer? |
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here | New CPE needed
You'll definitely need gigabit capable CPE to get that. Having a router that only does 10/100 won't cut it. |
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mobbo
join:2005-04-13
Denton, TX | reply to battleop
Re: What good is 200Mbps?
ALL TOGETHER FOLKS:
P2P |
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mobbo
join:2005-04-13
Denton, TX
1 edit | reply to CUBS_FAN
Re: Why?
Comcast, Cox, and Charter are still alive because they usually are the only broadband choice for the markets in which they "compete". When they only choice you have is cable or DSL... cable can still compete. That is changing though. One example of that is where I currently live, Denton, TX.
I just moved from Ft. Worth, TX to Denton, TX. In Ft. Worth, the ONLY choice I had was Charter cable or AT&T DSL. I am convinced the only reason Charter Comm is still in business is because they only exist in places where there is very minimal competition.
I say that because here in Denton, Charter is still here, but FiOS has been deployed for at least 2 years, and EVERYONE in this town is switching to FiOS. I would not be suprised if Charter left (and I held a parade) in the next 2 years. |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to battleop
Re: What good is 200Mbps?
I tend to agree... I've got access to OC-12 and soon GigE , however, many sites won't give me better than 10Mbps throughput on download (eg. »ftp://mirrors.kernel.org)
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XknightHawkX
join:2003-02-13
Morton, IL
clubs:
| Yet still not able to have FIOS
Upgrading speeds that already are better then the rest but I'll never see more then 1.5/768. As stated before cherry picking. A lot of places will never see FIOS. Then people like me will never see any kind of upgrade in my area so I can get a faster speed. 1.5/768 may have been great when it first became available but now I don't think it even cuts it. |
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PDXPLT
join:2003-12-04
Banks, OR
| reply to ptrowski
What good is LTE ...
... if they put a 5 Gbit cap on it, like Verizon always does on their wireless "broadband" connections? They should at least deploy basic DSL in those areas where it's feasible to do so. But they're refusing to do that, in areas where they face no cable competition. I guess they think they can charge more for wireless "broadband", and they don't want to cannibalize that business with their own DSL offering. |
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wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY
·Verizon FiOS
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·RoadRunner Cable
·BroadVoice
| reply to battleop
Re: What good is 200Mbps?
said by battleop :When the far end only gives you 10Mbps? I've got as much as 300Mbps in a remote datacenter and it's rare that I see more than 10Mbps on many sites. Yesterday I downloaded some stuff from Adobe and I could not get over 10Mbps from them. I have been pointing this out for the past two weeks every time an article of this type comes up. I am still shocked that so many people who visit this website dont understand this simple fact of the internet!
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If history teaches us anything, it teaches that simple-minded appeasement or wishful thinking about our adversaries is folly.
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Dnepr
join:2001-11-28
Tarpon Springs, FL | Whats the point?
Whats the point of these high tiers when they want 200+ dollars per month for it?
Seriously... who are they kidding? |
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EPS
join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA
| The point of having high tiers is to have high tiers, so you can go around and brag about your mega high speed internet speeds on commercials and at industry conferences. If some people actually pay the big bucks for the high speed tiers, that's just extra. |
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