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Plans to focus on 'radio-agnostic approach'
09:08AM Tuesday Mar 09 2010 by Karl Bode
tags: business · hardware · networking · wireless
The "WiMax is dead, it just doesn't know it yet" crowd scored another talking point (even if wrong) against Mobile WiMax this week with the news that Cisco is going to stop developing and building WiMax gear. Cisco does provide equipment to Clearwire for their Mobile WiMax build, but only core hardware -- not radios. Cisco's decision comes after Alcatel Lucent also recently dropped out the Mobile WiMax business to focus on serving AT&T and Verizon's LTE hardware needs. Cisco acquired WiMax vendor Navini Networks in 2007.

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"Cisco's mobile strategy has always been to provide a radio-agnostic approach that focuses on the packet core and IP network, where the company can add differentiated value," says a Cisco spokesman. "After a recent review of our WiMax business, we announced a decision to discontinue designing and building new WiMax base stations and modems, and we also announced a support plan for transitioning existing customers."

Given Cisco's approach of focusing on other aspects of network connectivity, the move isn't surprising -- nor does it equate to the automatic demise if Mobile WiMax, which now "reaches" (not necessarily serves) 650 million people globally, and 47 million in North America. Still, many analysts still think LTE is going to dominate U.S. connectivity, though not a single LTE network has been launched yet.

That optimism comes from the fact that most of them know betting against the combined lobbying and competitive power of AT&T and Verizon usually isn't a great idea. Still, the Sprint/Clearwire joint venture has a lot of powerful friends, including the majority of the cable industry. Should LTE dominate and Mobile WiMax be upstaged, Clearwire has stated they're not ruling out a shift to LTE service as well.

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Duramax08
Ya rly.
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San Antonio, TX
·Clearwire Wireless
·Juno Express

Clear will make it...

for now till LTE is released all over the country. Clear got good prices but there deployment is pretty slow. All I can say is I hope clear steps up there game and wish them the best of luck.
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Would like a landline but wireless will work for now.

morgan1112

join:2003-04-07
Round Rock, TX

Re: Clear will make it...

I agree. Clear WiMax services have been pretty reliable for me over the past few months.

chomcho2010

@cwwimax.net

Re: Clear will make it...

Because the Network is not loaded with customers such as a traditional Voice NW. you will see your service get degraded as the NW get loaded!!

Good luck!

MooJohn

join:2005-12-18
Milledgeville, GA

Were they ever a major player to begin with?

I wasn't aware that Cisco did much in the way of wireless networking hardware to start with. Sure I've seen their 80211 access points but I don't know about anything they make for wireless on this scale.

One of Clearwire's main investors is Motorola so it's not like they'll have trouble sourcing radio hardware.
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kem09030

join:2004-11-29
Rushville, IL


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Re: Were they ever a major player to begin with?

Huawei is providing most of the equipment for Clear. From what I have heard, the Moto equipment used in Chicago is being pulled out and replaced. The Huawei gear is much cheaper than that available from other manufacturers and it seems to work pretty good. Clear is using flex base stations so they can switch to LTE in the future, if needed, without much work.

»www.wimaxcom.net/2009/08/huawei-···ier.html
cmaenginsb
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-19
Palmdale, CA

said by MooJohn See Profile :

I wasn't aware that Cisco did much in the way of wireless networking hardware to start with. Sure I've seen their 80211 access points but I don't know about anything they make for wireless on this scale.

One of Clearwire's main investors is Motorola so it's not like they'll have trouble sourcing radio hardware.
Cisco bought Navini networks in 2007, which was a big player in outdoor wireless deployments for internet access purposes. The problem is outside of very few large ventures like Clearwire most wireless ISPs do not have the money to spend on a solution like theirs.

Given Clearwire doesn't use Cisco WIMAX hardware anyway, sourcing radio hardware isn't going to be an issue.
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tpalik

join:2002-09-27
Fort Lauderdale, FL

Re: Were they ever a major player to begin with?

Does anyone know what the plans are for the ex-Navini groups now ?

jfmezei
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Beaconsfield, QC
·ELECTRONICBOX

Will the real WiMax please stand up ?

I have to wonder about the statistics of WiMax deployments.

Here in Canada, in the late 1990s, Microcell started Inukshuk with some wireless internet (forget the protocol name). Things unraveled, and Bell Canada bought half of it, and marketed the service as "WiMax" (even though it wasn't WiMax and WiMax hadn't been commercially deployed yet).

Bell has since been told to stop marketing that service as "WiMax".

So I have to wonder if thst 650 million people coverage is really for the current intel mobile WiMax protocol, or if it encompasses the many predecessors that were used as inspirartion to build the real WiMax. In the later case, the number is meaningless since old equipment/protocols is not compatible with real WiMax.

It is pretty clear that Wi-Max will not win for the mobile phone market. But it may have a good market niche for data communications services (think FedEx/UPS with their hand held devices).

The big question is what will happen to Sprint's mobile services. Will they survive if they stick to CDMA and WiMax when there won't be many handsets built to suppor that ?

DaMaGeINC
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Greenville, SC
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WiMax?

Whats that? = A service that reaches some backwater town in the middle of nowhere.
xenophon

join:2007-09-17

Re: WiMax?

said by DaMaGeINC See Profile :

Whats that? = A service that reaches some backwater town in the middle of nowhere.
Chicago, Dallas, Portland, Atlanta, Philly? NYC, SF coming this year and many others. And they hit small towns as well, which many do not have other broadband options.

WiMAX is relative cheap for wireless and currently has no limits. Sounds like Verizon LTE will have usage-based rates, which makes it pointless for most of us. Verizon may as well give up if they aren't going to be competitive.
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